MANSIONAIR :   Jack Froggatt ,  Lachlan Bostock,  Alex Nicholls 

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    (Above) March 8TH, show at the Imperial nightclub in Vancouver, BC

 

Mansionair - The Making Of Shadowboxer
"Too often we let our shadows define who we are and we let them become bigger than they need to be. The making of Shadowboxer and the record itself is about that story.”

Runnin' From My Shadows

 

P Tinham  02.28.2019 

 Mansionair is an Australian indie electronic trio formed in 2014. Sunleadsme Magazine was first introduced to Mansionair during a highlight of our Seattle neighbours Odesza, In 2017, when they collaborated with Mansionair and WYNNE on the very beautiful hit track, "Line of Sight”.

With their first full-length album, Shadowboxer, released on March 1, 2019 via Mansionair (Glassnote Records) The harmonic band have curated their favored singles including, "Easier", "Astronaut - Something About Your Love", and "Violet City",  (which landed on the Billboard Rock Airplay charts) and many more amazing numbers into one wonderful listen (Shadowboxer). SLM caught up with lead singer Jack Froggatt in his childhood suburb of hometown, Sydney, Australia having a lovely break between tours. We chat about the album release , upcoming tour and the evolution of their musical artistry. Shadowboxer, the long-awaited debut album from Mansionair, diarises the band's journey so far in one sprawling sitting.

The Grammy nominated trio - Jack Froggatt, Lachlan Bostock and Alex Nicholls - have shared seven singles and collected over 100 million streams since forming in 2014, but they have always had designs on something bigger.

Featuring popular singles 'Falling', 'Violet City', 'Astronaut (Something About Your Love)' and 'Easier', Shadowboxer is a story of how self-doubt and internal battles can coalesce into something beautiful. Through luminous electronics and emotive vocals, this 16-track release is a masterclass in shifting moods and dynamic intensity.

Recorded/ produced by Mansionair and mixed by Eric J (Flume, Flight Facilities).

SLM:  The album artwork is so unique from what I have seen so far and what appears to be symbols in the artwork for the album. What can you share with us about what they represent, are they representative of each track? 

Jack:   It's funny how it all came together. Over the years we really wanted to create something with lots of tones and colors and we worked with a designer, Johnathan Key (jonathankey.com ) on it.

I had this crazy idea of cutting out a logo for the art work, and eventually we went through the motions over the last eighteen months of designing this campaign which lead towards these strange hieroglyphic symbols. They were really a bit of an afterthought and I think when we all saw them, we fell in love with them.

Each single cut is representative of each song on the album. There's no real giant concept behind it, but more kind of a way to identify each song. I mean I love the symbols, think if I had it my way, the songs would be called “The Symbols” (laughs). We've just been finding all these new ways to incorporate them into our merchandise. They were literally one of the last things we did before we finished up for the year last year and now they're kind of leading us forward into the release. 

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SLM: The single "Shadows", released last week,tell us a little bit about this track in particular as it relates to the album. 

Jack:   Shadows is one of our oldest songs, it was actually the first song we wrote for the album, back in August 2015. I had this concept of running from your shadows and that really propelled the idea of Shadowboxer and as we wrote more and more songs for the record we realized that this is that we really wanted to talk about. So, in a way Shadows is kind of the crux of the record.  Where I was living I would always go out on these night walks and I loved the way the street lights would cast light on the road. When we were working on that song, I identified that scene and took in a bit more of a conceptual idea of running from our shadows or looking at the dark sides of mental health, or maybe things in our life we can't really solve with this idea of, instead if facing it all the time, there's not a lot you can do about it. So we all conceived the idea of a record about turning away from focusing so much on the things we can't fix and looking at the good things in your life and the struggles that come with that. Shadows really spearheaded that concept.

Shadows is the grounding pole of the record, we spent so long working on it and it has so many different versions that we were never quite happy with and I think when we finally got it there, we were just so excited to set it free. As an artist you spend so long on certain songs, you lose your passion for them in many ways. Shadows is one that lasted for so long in our hearts that I can finally see it now. It was just a bit of a victory. By the time they've come out we've run our course with them, but then we get to move them over to whoever wants to listen to them.

 

SLM: You can release them into the world and then move forward.


Jack: Yeah exactly. Once I release a song I never ever listen to it again. I've listened to Shadows I would say close to a 100,000 times. But it just comes out never having listened to it at all. Yeah you really do spend your life with it and when it comes out you really di give it to the world and say "Here you go."

So there's the story of it.


SLM: Tell us about the latest track, Falling and the lovely video that goes with it. 

 


Jack:  We wrote Shadows, Falling and Technicolor just months a part, they're very intertwined. Falling was funny actually, I remember writing the lyrics, the first line of that song, “I think I’ll borrow tomorrow’s happiness for today”, When I was out with some friends and I said it and my friend John was like "You should write that down, that might be a song." I have people say that to me as a joke all the time, but this one was actually one that turned into a song.

 I never really saw Falling as a love song but when people hear it they say, "Oh that's such a beautiful love song." To me, it was just me admitting to myself that I was spending too much time doing things that weren't very beneficial to my head space at the time. The lyrics of the song were really turned toward the end about how we can continue to reach for things, but at the end of the day as long as you're reaching for the right things and you fall back down next to the people who are going help you get back up again then it doesn't really matter, at least you tried.

 That song has so many different facets towards it that and people say "Oh it's about falling in love." I remember a friend telling me "Oh you're saying falling, falling, I'm falling in love."

"Well actually I'm not but also if you hear that, then that's awesome too." So at this point, my version of why I wrote the lyrics is very different to how someone else wants to hear it.

That's what I love so much about song writing in general. To us this record is about so much struggle and too much over thinking and not really feeling confident. Now that Shadowboxer is finished, we can say "Ah yes this is who we are."

SLM: I love it. 

Jack: The great thing about ART is that it is always contradicting itself.

 

SLM: Easier is also so amazing, and also has a brilliant video with it as well. Who do you work with for your video with these tracks? 

Jack: Easier was a video we shot- starting off the video for a different song at the time, called Pick Me Up, which was one of our earlier songs out on our Pick Me Up EP, which had Speak Easy on it as well.  I think we were just a bit slow at getting everything together and eventually the video never came out. When we wrote Easier, that song was such a big moment for us because we really felt like we had not only written a great record with a song we felt was really great, but also it was the first time we really put ourselves into these songs.

 I still remember the exact scene I was in when I realized I wanted to write a song based on a scene in the movie Lost in Translation , I walked in to Lachlan's place and said "I have this idea, I want to write this song from this scene and I want it to be a consequence of life which doesn't get easier and like why is life so shit sometimes."

SLM: Easier is also so amazing, and also has a brilliant video with it as well. Who do you work with for your video with these tracks? 

Jack: Easier was a video we shot- starting off the video for a different song at the time, called Pick Me Up, which was one of our earlier songs out on our Pick Me Up EP, which had Speak Easy on it as well.  I think we were just a bit slow at getting everything together and eventually the video never came out. When we wrote Easier, that song was such a big moment for us because we really felt like we had not only written a great record with a song we felt was really great, but also it was the first time we really put ourselves into these songs.

 I still remember the exact scene I was in when I realized I wanted to write a song based on a scene in the movie Lost in Translation, I walked in to Lachlan's place and said "I have this idea, I want to write this song from this scene and I want it to be a consequence of life which doesn't get easier and like why is life so shit sometimes."

When we were looking through our old hardrive and we found the video for Pick Me Up, we just looked at it and said “Maybe this should be the video for Easier." The idea of pulling each other apart and dancing with someone maybe you're dancing with another person, like a lover or a friend or you're dancing with yourself and it's this whole idea of pulling to pieces and also trying to hold each other together and I think that visual element really complements what we were trying to say in the song. Our friend Matt Thorne helped direct that.

SLM: I love you're saying dance track. I feel like Technicolor is a great dance track. Astronaut as well, that's a really popular one, they're both beautiful. Do you have a favourite of your own? Like one that's not released from Shadowboxer (At the time of this interview only tracks had been released) 

Jack: Yeah the last track on the record was a song we're all very, very proud of and it was a real test for me lyrically, (HEIRLOOM) I wanted write a song that was not so much about me, but about someone else. I wrote this song a about Dennis Wilson (Beach Boy) and his story towards the end of his life. We tested each other in that song quite a lot and I think that shows a real different side of us and a side we're all very proud of.  I think musically, some of the best song writing, and the arrangement is something when you put it on you actually feel like you're underwater. I am obsessed with water and we all grew up by the beach and swimming a lot through the process of writing. The idea of water is very much threaded through this record. 

There's also this other song towards the end of the record called Harlem, which is one of the last songs we wrote for the album. I remember when Lachlan first played me the guitar part he wrote for it, I knew that feeling that he was trying to explore.

We began to finish writing that song and every time we played it, we'd all be transported into this emotion that the song was creating. I remember we were trying to work on the lyrics "We don't need to say too much because the music says more than words ever could."

SLM: I know that you guys spent some time in LA and Violet City, that's sort of stand out single, it kind of appears that Los Angeles is your muse in this video. What was that experience like being in LA compared to being back home writing? 

Jack: Violet City was really about struggling to find L.A inspiring. Coming back in last couple years, I do really love L.A now, but I think when we went over there to write, I know I felt like an outsider and tried to change who I was a little bit.  We were only there for a month but that song was a real reaction to what was going on in our lives at the time. I feel like the song is about trying to let go of everything and stop feeling the need to control so much. I love controlling everything. Going to a city like LA, where everyone is doing something amazing creatively and everyone's trying to do something great and I guess maybe as Australians felt like maybe we shouldn't be here. Maybe we should go back to the slower paced life of living in Sydney, but I think writing that song and being in LA for that, really pushed us to explore different parts of ourselves as songwriters. 

I think it was a really big catalyst for helping us finish the record.

SLM: I remember Jimmy Vallance (Bob Moses) having a similar feeling to L.A, they were ready to try out new places now, to record as well, when we chatted in our interview for our last issue (BOB MOSES INTERVIEW). You guys recently went on tour with Bob Moses , how did you connect and go on tour with them? 

Jack: I've been a big fan of Bob Moses over the years after falling in love with their first EP. After looking at our touring schedule last year their name came up that they were doing a tour and we were just like "Oh we'd love to be on that tour." We're all big fans and we e take a lot of inspiration from dance and house music too and we thought perhaps our music could complement theirs music in a good way. They're such great guys and their whole crew is like family now and I guess that's the greatest thing about touring with so many different people, is you really get to join different families on the road for months at a time. 

We're going to be crossing paths with them at some festivals in the near future in the states and we're really looking forward to catching up with them again. 

SLM: Absolutely. You're playing Laneway in a couple weeks and Coachella 2019, that will be amazing. Have you ever played Coachella before? 

(Bob Moses, Mansionair and fellow Australians Rufus Du Sol and Tame Impala all play at Coachella 2019)

Jack: No, not with Mansionair, I went up on stage with Odesza last year to sing a song we worked on with them. I had never been to Coachella before. The boys, Loch, and Alex came along as well. First time going to Coachella and we're rocking out to the main stage entrance. The back stage and main stage entrance, walking up onto the main stage and getting to sing a song was a bit of an express path, I felt a bit guilty because I hadn't worked my way up to that just yet, but it was a breathtaking experience. 

SLM: Do you know what stage you'll be on this year? 

Jack: No, not sure just yet. But honestly just to be on that line up, like we've watched that line up get poster for years and to be on it is such an honor. I'm very excited. It's the end of our North American tour. We'll have all our new songs in the set and our album will be out. We're planning some pretty fun things for the show. So yeah we're so excited to get onto that stage. 

Coachella and Mansion Air for the first time ! (See set above at Coachella Live Stream)

Check out our pictures from Imperial show (Vancouver) and Coachella above and for more from Mansionair at www.mansionair.com